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Post by Trogers2 on Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:16 am

Yeah, I think we should sort something out here to reduce the amount of games "unplanned".

My idea is to get the "ST" of each game to post on "the thread" when he/she plans to host, players will say if they can/can not join if the date on the thread is not good for them, the catchup game doesn't have to be in game, it can be forum RP or maybe just a bio story.

Also STs hosting on a specfic day is a good idea, e.g. Doan hosting on Fridays, Trogers2 on Thursdays, but alas this system has failed us before. Tools on MSN/Hamachi can be used to inform players also. Maybe catchup games can be played out.

Let me know what your views are on this matter.

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Post by isador on Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:36 pm

My view on this is poorly, most ST's (namely doan, mopy and shadow) cant host at specific times because of things going on in their personal life. Same goes for some players.

Making a schedule will end up just as bad as before

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Post by Doe on Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:51 pm

im with Isador.

This is hobby, not a job.

An ST should decide himself, whether or not he wants to plan a scedule or not. I have a Life, and a busy one at that and cant afford to guarantee that i will make a game at a specific time, regardless of whether or not i want to. And i feel most others are the same.

So in brief. If an ST doesnt want to ''Organazize'' he shouldnt have to.
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Post by Gast on Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:59 pm

Working in Shifts its impossible to Shedule Games, in general Real Life and Work get in the way of Playing a lot, not all of us are still at school with a buttload of time,
I keep hosting when I have a) Time b) Players c) Feel like it

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Post by Trogers2 on Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:08 pm

The problem was people missing out on huge numbers of games.

Doe wrote:This is hobby, not a job.

I don't see how STs posting when they would like to host on the forums would make this a job?

Doe wrote:An ST should decide himself, whether or not he wants to plan a scedule or not

He would. If the ST was looking for more players then I think posting on the forum is the way to go (maybe for main games)



Doe wrote:I have a Life, and a busy

We all do, if you read my first post again it says

trogers2 wrote:players will say if they can/can not join

Players don't have to attend if they are busy.

moepy wrote:not all of us are still at school with a buttload of time

I'm actually at college and on my break atm which is why I have so much free time, that will soon end.

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Post by Trogers2 on Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:11 pm

isador wrote:My view on this is poorly, most ST's (namely doan, mopy and shadow) cant host at specific times because of things going on in their personal life. Same goes for some players.

Making a schedule will end up just as bad as before

It's true some STs will struggle and everything may just go back to the same old hosting at randem unexpected times issue but I can see a few STs coping with this way of doing things. I'll leave this up to the STs, just an idea.

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Post by Doe on Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:22 pm

Well regardless of all that, its clear, that 2 of our 3 active STs cant scedule games well in advance, and by that i mean Mopy and Doan.
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Post by Trogers2 on Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:27 pm

Doe wrote:see thing is trogs, your just posting your own oppinions again. They were mine so theres no need to disregard them and try to argue your point.

Its clear, that 2 of our 3 active STs cant scedule games well in advance, and by that i mean Mopy and Doan.

It isn't an oppionion it's just a suggestion. I'm not frcing anyone to doa nything just trying to make things easier. It's good you have posted your "oppionion" It helps. Yes, I'm aware some of the STs will struggle with this which is what i said, like I said I'll just leave it open as an Idea.

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Post by ShadowLance on Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:05 am

Would be nice if it worked. Some people do have regular schedules where they have free time. The problem is getting them to align.

My free time is at the end of the day, which because of the time-zones is at ridiculous hours for everyone else, so when I host, I try to find a gap in the day when people are online. That's pretty much what determines when my games are. (Though recently it's been next to impossible).

This is somewhat off-topic, but what if we had a new game, an extra one on the side that ANY st could host. Like the "official" chron of KK. Each ST's style would be different, but who cares? Plots would develop and change seperately in each hosting, but maybe an overall story could be shared and evolved between the STs. Core important NPCs could be decided on in advance, but all the rest of NPCs could just come and go. "Where's Bob? We were going to meet", "Oh, Bob's busy right now."

I bring this up because this discussion got me thinking.. we have a decent number of ST's (awesome!) but pretty irregular and mixed hosting times. Having one common chron could bring a sense of continuity.

The main issue I can think of is when an ST is on and ready to host, "which chron to host?", the ST's personal one or the "KK chron"? I don't know, there's probably other problems, just throwing it out there.

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Re: Some Orginiazion

Post by Doe on Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:27 am

Shadow, in Theory your idea is a great one, but i dont think itt would work. Simply for the reason that all STs use their own lore.

Shadow- Owod
Mopy- Nwod
Doan- Mix of both
Trogs- Non Wod
V- Owod.

So for that reason, i can see it being a problem, so would we then have to adopt a 'KK WOD'?

Regardless of that however, i think its a pretty good idea, aslong as the other STs dont stray from hosting their own Chrons. I would miss the chrons i currently play.
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Post by Victor Erion on Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:00 am

Generaly the Idea is good but the diffrent time zones and the *personal life* mostly with the wife i assume (kid too) doesnt leave much free time for you guys, the job sucks i know you go to work sometimes you dont want to but then the wife is going to beat you up for not having enough money for the little fellaw to buy him/her ice cream or candy and other material stuff.
I gues that it can be good if there was a table set with all 7 days included ( i gues 8 days woud be fine too Razz ) it can be timed or coded but, that is kind of pretty much coding, so the best option is if ye and by *ye* i mean ST'S that usualy host games or all of em for that matter can write like a percentage perhaps? (%) in that current day depending on how much free time you think you will get and etc...
There can be set like a small table and going down the number 1 to 8 of that current day then the ST woud mostly sigh in their name and place a percentage of how much time they can spare or on other suircumstances.
EXAMPLE----------
MONDAY---27 (not real date)
1 Trogers---10%
2 Shadow---18%
3 Doan---70-80%
4 Moepy---50%
5 other ST---1-15%
etc...
that such kind of a table can be reset, at the end of the week so every ST can write down some more information... there shoud be an option to change that percentage cos in real life you never know what will happen, you point out 100% ill host... then the wife waters broke out and O?!? how did that happen? dam i wish i coud change it... or ive got to walk the dog, the wife is naging me to buy milk... got stuck in traffic etc...
Well you dont have to fill in the whole grapha at once ya know!... you coud do em at the date we are in its tuesday 15, tomorow is etc... you write on the day/date we are in and how much chance you think you can host... cos if you do tipe in the wholle table then you may need to change it for some reason... gues its better this way.
And if you guys dont want to do this... well, you can do it by the msn skype or other contact program by writing up the day and how much chance you will get... that is good too.
Ok! so what do you guys say? hm???... Shocked

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Post by Gast on Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:26 pm

i stay with my old system, host on request, or find a date /time with my players

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Post by Trogers2 on Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:29 pm

Doe wrote:V- Owod.

V doesn't host WOD, he hosts none world of darkness games.

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Post by ShadowLance on Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:10 am

V- n/aWoD Smile

anyways, like I said, I'm sure there's other problems.

All we'd really need to solve the rolling system problem is a universal character sheet. The ST can use whatever rolling system they want. If an ST doesn't require a CSheet then there's really no problem.

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Post by Trogers2 on Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:13 am

You know, actually I like Shadows idea alot, I've been thinking about it. Maybe we could all vote on how we want the game such as, WOD/ new or old, setting DA/MD, city it is placed in etc... As STs, the story can be completly made up based on who hosts it, the info from the last game as of ideas can be past on to the next person who plans to host it.

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Post by ShadowLance on Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:03 pm

Well this may be a bit too crazy... but we do have the dynamic of a fiction where the characters can live forever.

So in theory, the STs could host EITHER MD or DA (as long as no one died in DA).

(Btw, I love these screenshots at the top that cycle!)

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Post by Kikopuz on Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:50 am

People, I like this idea a lot!
*tries to get this topic started again*
No really, we should figure out a way of making a KK chron without having this ST problem.

And btw, whats up with the topic title? Looks like a nazi party..
DAS ORGANIZAZION! scratch
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Post by ShadowLance on Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:36 pm

The guy from England's English isn't swell Very Happy

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Post by isador on Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:10 pm

He's not english, he's dutch, like me Razz

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Post by Kikopuz on Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:28 pm

isador wrote:He's not english, he's dutch, like me Razz

Ehh, volgens mij bedoeld ie Tom..
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Post by ShadowLance on Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:41 pm

Haha, I was talking about Trogers Smile

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Post by isador on Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:58 pm

Damnit

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Post by Trogers2 on Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:59 pm

I'm willing to give this a shot though, if shadow is going to struggle with Phioneix maybe it will be a good idea to talk to other STs about what you had in store for phioneix (if they don't mind spoilers) and take it in turns to host at that end.

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Post by ShadowLance on Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:11 pm

Sure yeah, I don't mind. Really whatever's best for the community. I feel like I'm dragging it down by not being able to host this thing so it'd be great if someone wanted to take over.

I can write up a plot outline for whoever feels up to that.

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Post by Trogers2 on Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:13 pm

ShadowLance wrote:Sure yeah, I don't mind. Really whatever's best for the community. I feel like I'm dragging it down by not being able to host this thing so it'd be great if someone wanted to take over.

I can write up a plot outline for whoever feels up to that.

Anyone want to take over...? Come on people!

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